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''Tarih bir meslektir, bir hobi, gevezelik, anekdot ya da asparagas değildir.'' (Pierre Goubert)

kurucu osman beyin asıl adının ataman bey

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    Mualla Uydu Yücel kendi derslerinde bu iddiayı yalanladı. Bana kaynağını bi atsana bakalım kaynağın kim bu iddia için
    Edit: ben tarih okudum, Türk Tarihi profesörü bizzat bu iddiayı yalanladı ama her sene iki üç kişi kaynak falan göstermeden bu iddiayı atıp kaçıyor. Bi kaynak atın lan.
    Edit 2:ataman dediğiniz şey de isim falan değil, altinorda devletinde (Moğol imparatorluğu çökünce oluşan bi devlet) bir askeri rütbedir. isim falan değildir.
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      (Journal of Academic Inquiries)
      Cilt/Volume: 11, Sayı/Issue: 1, Yıl/Year: 2016

      The issue of establishment of Ottoman Empire, is a matter that many thinkers came in to different conclusions because of the insufficiency of the sources. Insufficiency of the sources is the reason that the period form Osman
      Gazi to Fatih Sultan Mehmet is called disputed years. If he had a Turkish
      name with his Muslim name, his relations with other veterans that were active in the West Anatolia and around Sakarya River, Lala Şahin Pasha and his
      father Umur Bey are constituting the main striking subjects of this research.
      In this study, supported the idea put forward by A. Erzi, intended that the
      name of “Toman” in El-Ömerî could be Osman Gazi’s Turkish name rather
      than “Ataman” in Western sources and excels the idea of effect the sermon
      read on behalf Osman Gazi or his fame may have exceeded Bithynia region. His original name was Turkish, probably Atman or Ataman, and was only later changed to ‘Osmān. The earliest Byzantine sources, including Osman's contemporary George Pachymeres, spell his name as Ατουμάν (Atouman) or Ατμάν (Atman)
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